{"id":6022,"date":"2012-04-23T05:17:13","date_gmt":"2012-04-23T03:17:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.ultimatefatburner.com\/?p=6022"},"modified":"2015-02-16T09:02:08","modified_gmt":"2015-02-16T14:02:08","slug":"dateline-supplement-testing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ultimatefatburner.com\/ufb-blog\/dateline-supplement-testing\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Dateline&#8221; on Supplement Testing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When this &#8220;Dateline&#8221; episode on supplement testing was aired (March 18th), I was too busy packing boxes to pay attention. But now that Chez Lowe has been successfully relocated, it&#8217;s worth visiting.<\/p>\n<p>The episode &#8211; like most mass media treatments &#8211; raised the alarm about supplement safety. Although the narrator admitted early on that most manufacturers are &#8220;responsible,&#8221; this caveat was quickly buried in menacing spin and imagery. What made the Dateline narrative different, however, is that the producers and writers didn&#8217;t rely solely on conjecture &#8211; they had a genuine supplement scandal to discuss (Total Body Formula, which contained toxic amounts of selenium), and uncovered another one &#8211; the potential falsification of test data by 3rd party laboratories\u00a0(&#8220;dry labbing&#8221;) in the process.<\/p>\n<p>The vid is divided into 3 parts:<\/p>\n<p>Part I:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><object id=\"msnbc4a95a9\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=46786929&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"launch=46786929&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"pluginspage\" value=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><embed id=\"msnbc4a95a9\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" FlashVars=\"launch=46786929&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowScriptAccess=\"always\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" wmode=\"transparent\" flashvars=\"launch=46786929&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #999; margin-top: 5px; background: transparent; text-align: center; width: 420px;\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/world\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Part II:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><object id=\"msnbc350d55\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=46786959&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"launch=46786959&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"pluginspage\" value=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><embed id=\"msnbc350d55\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" FlashVars=\"launch=46786959&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowScriptAccess=\"always\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" wmode=\"transparent\" flashvars=\"launch=46786959&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #999; margin-top: 5px; background: transparent; text-align: center; width: 420px;\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/world\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Part III:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><object id=\"msnbc9116e3\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=46786989&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"launch=46786989&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"pluginspage\" value=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><embed id=\"msnbc9116e3\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" FlashVars=\"launch=46786989&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowScriptAccess=\"always\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" wmode=\"transparent\" flashvars=\"launch=46786989&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #999; margin-top: 5px; background: transparent; text-align: center; width: 420px;\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/world\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"text-decoration: none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Not surprisingly, the show elicited the usual industry\u00a0denials\u00a0(see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nutraingredients-usa.com\/Markets\/Dateline-NBC-expose-provides-opportunity-to-fix-dry-labbing-issues\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nutraingredients-usa.com\/Markets\/Dateline-expose-not-representative-of-the-responsible-supplement-industry-AHPA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>, for example) and my sense is that they&#8217;re <em>mostly<\/em> correct &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nutraingredients-usa.com\/Markets\/Expert-Most-of-us-know-which-labs-are-dry-labs-or-at-least-horrifically-incompetent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the problem of &#8220;dry labbing&#8221; probably isn&#8217;t widespread<\/a>. What I found dismaying about these responses, however, is that the industry poohbahs protesting the show didn&#8217;t seem to have any solutions. Dry labbing may not be a major problem, but it&#8217;s still an issue. This raises the obvious question: what\u00a0can the industry do to weed out unreliable labs? The only concrete suggestion I&#8217;ve seen so far\u00a0places the onus on manufacturers\/retailers to &#8220;throw them [the testing facilities] a false sample once in a while and see if they catch it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Great. Even if the problem isn&#8217;t a huge one, when it comes to cases like Total Body Formula, it can be serious&#8230; deadly serious. &#8220;Throwing them a false sample once in a while&#8221; doesn&#8217;t cut it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When this &#8220;Dateline&#8221; episode on supplement testing was aired (March 18th), I was too busy packing boxes to pay attention. 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